Honestly, i would really love a Machinedrum (after hearing what it could do on Phase Fatale's stuff), but that is too far out of my price range, so its a pipe dream unit i will probably never actually own. Right, i think the "same experience" they were talking about was more about the way sequencing is done, not the functionality of the synth engine itself. So i guess, if the two are used as only sequencers, are the two the same in overall capability, like amount of tracks, song mode, stuff like that? Is there any reason to use the octatrack over the syntakt as the “brain” in a “live jam” scenario? Based on my goal does it seem like the syntakt is the better option, or is there a way to integrate the Octotrack into Bitwig to get things written on the octotrack into the DAW? Also, the Oktatrack has no overbridge integration (this seems like a huge oversight by elektron). The conundrum is i like the audio mangling of the octatrack, but i like the drum synth of the Syntakt. I mean, ive gotta record the midi data from each track into a midi clip in Bitwig, but after that, it does what i want. So i own the Digitone, and so far, overbridge looks to make this possible with that. This last part, the MPC can do in a bounced down audio stem of each track. However, i would still like the ability to alter midi or settings from within the daw, and eventually bounce em down to individual audio tracks. I would then like to be able to split each track into their own tracks within Bitwig. I would like to be able to sketch out an idea by twisting knobs and sequencing on a piece of hardware. What i am hoping to accomplish, is a way to create songs in a more “live” sense. I really liked the MPC on paper, but after a week of trying to work it into my workflow/studio, i am realizing the computer and standalone sides to the MPC are stupidly seperated by a huge wall. I am seriously contemplating finding a way to trade my MPC Live II for either an Octotrack or a Syntakt. i choose the Rytm just because i want a drum machine (or better drum synth), for playing samples i use ableton live and the Push 2, record in wav my drums that i created with my hardware synth, put in the drum rack in Live and then sequence in Push.I have read through a bunch of posts, but either the post is very old, or its not really answering my question. Said that, it really depends, if you use tons of sample it makes sense to buy the Octatrack, if you just want a drum machine with lot of synthesis capability and a degree of sampling then the Analog Rytm. I learned it from the hardway, lost money by just following my GAS and lost precious time for composition. Knowing your equipment really well will make a tons of difference in you composition because if you have a great idea but don't know how to make it real, is a wasted idea. There is a learning curve that you have to follow step by step, and that's what separate someone who make great music from someone who just collect equipment and pretend to know how to play (every reference to the Gearslutz forum people is purely casual), take an instrument which inspire you the most, learn it to death (every obscure function, everything) and than Kick A**, if not you're going to fell off the road and lose a lot of money. You have to start with your mind ready and not thinking that you'll be able to become Mozart, Vangelis or Jimi Hendrix in 1 day or even a Month. I choose it indipendently from the fact that Elektron instruments are difficult to use (who said that?), i don't think they are more difficult than other instruments. I ordered an Analog Rytm a couple of days ago and it should be on his way.
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